Which silo are we going to buy?

This is a fairly key question - we need to pick which site is the best, and it would be beneficial to send someone over to actually check it out.

GOOD ONES
-Titan1 site ($2,800,000), largest option (45,000 sqft) = most space. 62$/sqft
http://www.missilebases.com/denver

-Nike site ($199,000), cheapest floorspace (15,000 sqft) 14$/sqft
http://www.missilebases.com/gardner

-Atlas F site ($150,000), chepest (floorspace unknown)
http://www.missilebases.com/mitchell

-Atlas F site2 (price unknown), renovated but small, has internet
http://www.siloforsale.com/Property1.htm

NOT SO GOOD ONES
-Radius Bombshelter (variable), no renovation needed, variable floorspace, ~$81,000 per person
http://www.bomb-shelter.net/products.html

-Floating City (cost unknown)
http://www.shimz.co.jp/english/theme/dream/greenfloat.html

SCRAPPED
-Soviet surplus warship (cost unknown)
-Oil Rig (cost unknown)


At the moment the best option seems to be the Nike site, however we have no floorplan for it on hand so it is hard to plan further with it.
We should also send someone over there to check the place out and report back with video and photos
Once we know how much living space we have, we can establish how much each person would need to pay on average.

One thing I like about the Nike Site is its position in the USA, right smack dab in the middle of it. This allows for easier transport to the site from anywhere in the US. Large flat land, perfect for solar power and farming.

I think we should send out people to investigate the sites/contact the sellers so we can get some more details on them. Also, stay on the lookout for other potential sites.

You also want to keep in mind weather conditions. Having to heat or cool this entire area could add significantly to costs over the long term.

JonathanDoe wrote:You also want to keep in mind weather conditions. Having to heat or cool this entire area could add significantly to costs over the long term.

Temperate surface conditions would probably be the best here.

Gotta think of the larpers too.

--EDIT--

I'm liking the look of the Nike facility.

I think we need to contact someone and discuss how much it'd cost to clean shit out.

It could easily change our decision if we find out our chosen nerd cave is full of water and eldritch abominations, and one for just a little more money is just full of boxes and needs a good dusting.

Diggy wrote:I think we need to contact someone and discuss how much it'd cost to clean shit out.

It could easily change our decision if we find out our chosen nerd cave is full of water and eldritch abominations, and one for just a little more money is just full of boxes and needs a good dusting.

Very true.
I can't do it sadly as I'm nowhere near the US to begin with so someone else will need to.

In light of recent comments the Titan base might be worth looking into more heavily. Not only will it support FAR more people and facilities, we have a floorplan available and the location is far better than the Nike site's transportation wise.

Never forget boys and girls, The asking price of a place can usually be haggled down. Although we plan for the asking price, we must attempt to lower it through smart negotiations.

As I am reading other posts, we are trying to get lots of people involved, would it be delusions to think that more than one Missile silo project could see the day, I mean , if there's enough folks to get more than one?

Bastaloch wrote:As I am reading other posts, we are trying to get lots of people involved, would it be delusions to think that more than one Missile silo project could see the day, I mean , if there's enough folks to get more than one?

It could be possible, but it's not what we're after, now.

Right now, we're only concerned with one. After we secure that and keep it going for a while, who knows?

Personally, I am finding the
http://www.missilebases.com/adironback
to be the one I am most interested in.
20 acres, at 2.3 million dollars...Right now I am going to look up some grants...

Daemonwelsh wrote:Personally, I am finding the
http://www.missilebases.com/adironback
to be the one I am most interested in.
20 acres, at 2.3 million dollars...Right now I am going to look up some grants...

couple more possibilites:
http://www.missilebases.com/mitchell
acres: 16
cost: 200,000
http://www.missilebases.com/denver
acres: 200+
cost:Price firm at $2,800,000. (no owner financing, full cash at closing required.) Serious and capable buyers only.
(20 minutes from denver colorado.)

still looking for grants

The Nike site absolutely seems like the best choice. I really doubt we'll need more room than it offers, and it's sort of reasonably priced.

grant #1:
http://www.dsireusa.org/incentives/incentive.cfm?Incentive_Code=US53F&re=1&ee=1
http://www.dsireusa.org/incentives/incentive.cfm?Incentive_Code=US05F&re=1&ee=1
http://www.dsireusa.org/incentives/incentive.cfm?Incentive_Code=US03F&re=1&ee=1

still looking for more grants.

Nike: cheap floorspace, decent amount of land
Titan: huge as fuck and great loaction (near airport), but expensive out the ass
Adirondac: fucking gorgeous but expensive as fuck

The Nike site costs 200,000 for about 16 acres.
we would also need to rebuild the thing.

http://www.missilebases.com/valleyfallskansas
that one has possibilities of haggling, and a base of 46 acres.
275,000

http://www.missilebases.com/mitchell
Costs less, more acres, lots of cleaning may be necessary.
18.7 acres.
150,000

the titan one has 210 acres, at 2.8 million.
and we may be able to haggle that price down.

difference between nike and mitchell is around 50,000
we can use that money to help rebuild the whole thing, to our specs...

though it seems like number two would be better.

and a google search on how many acres is needed to feed a person yields 1.2 acres.

Daemonwelsh wrote:
http://www.missilebases.com/valleyfallskansas
that one has possibilities of haggling, and a base of 46 acres.
275,000

This actually looks pretty good, even though the "was flooded, needs new door to keep dry" part worries me.

Really, floorspace over acres. We can buy food but we can't really excavate more underground space.

=EDIT= Wrong quote

Scriptarius wrote:

Daemonwelsh wrote:
http://www.missilebases.com/valleyfallskansas
that one has possibilities of haggling, and a base of 46 acres.
275,000

This actually looks pretty good, even though the "was flooded, needs new door to keep dry" part worries me.

Really, floorspace over acres. We can buy food but we can't really excavate more underground space.

=EDIT= Wrong quote

We can add more underground area. My greatest concern is getting more than 1 persons food out of 1.2 acres of land.
If we can produce say... enough food for two people per acre, then that will get us more possibilities.

Perhaps we should get someone to research space efficient crops, specifically.

Or better yet fund some /sci/ducks to make some hybrid hyperfoods.

[quote="Scriptarius"]

Daemonwelsh wrote:
Really, floorspace over acres. We can buy food but we can't really excavate more underground space.

Agreed. Still, we are going to need some above-ground space. Part of our nascent business plan involves energy farming, either via wind or solar, either of which require a bit of ground space. Not as much as actual cows-n-corn farming, mind, but a fair bit.

At the end of the day the Titan site would solve all our problems if we could afford it.
I also want to get my hands on those power domes.

CAN YOU SAY GAMING DOME?

http://www.popsci.com/technology/article/2010-07/nrel-finishes-net-zero-research-facility-generates-much-power-it-uses
http://www.popsci.com/science/article/2010-06/environmental-visionaries-solar-roadrunner
http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2010-08/acs-ecf080910.php
http://www.popsci.com/technology/article/2010-07/toilet-tech-power-generator-turns-wastewater-electricity
http://www.popsci.com/gadgets/article/2010-07/vibration-powered-battery-charges-when-you-shake-it
http://www.popsci.com/science/article/2010-06/deuterium-diy-man-builds-homemade-nuclear-fusion-reactor-brooklyn

ANd hell yes. That titan is the one I want. How many people do we have confirmed to get on this project?

It seems most people are interested in the Titan, but think about it this way; It's near a major metropolitan area. Know what that means? More competition for resources, higher costs (Manpower, Energy Expedience, less farming land available, and a higher probability that we'll be attacked. The less energy you have to spend surviving is the more energy you could spend living).

My vote goes to the Nike facility for a few simple reasons, It's in a small town, with ample room to grow, it's in Kansas, an area populated with Salt Mines that can be converted into living areas if needed, and a valuable resource, the soil in Kansas is great for farming if needs be, and the land is flat, and easily defensible.

The Nike facility is made for a decent survival bunker that would serve as living quarters, but also, the workshop will be invaluable for future development.

HarryDresden wrote:and a higher probability that we'll be attacked.

Wait, what? This place won't be in post-apocalyptic Australia. We don't have to worry about being attacked.